2.0 tsi vs 2.0 tdi

Volkswagen Golf 5 2.0 FSI (2004) vs Volkswagen Golf 2017 GTI 2.0 TSI 230HP DSG-6 (2017) Magazine. Avant 50 TDI quattro tiptronic. 2023 Audi A6 (C8 2023) Avant 45 The 2.0 TFSI engine was blamed for so many issues that a settlement was issued to owners unlucky enough to own an Audi with one under the hood. The successful lawsuit covered 2009-2011 Audi A4s Posted 27 January, 2011. Financially unless you do high miles or expect to keep the car 8 years or more 1.2TSi will be the better deal. Currently RFL is £20 pa for 1.6TDi 105PS and £90 pa for 1.2TSi but TDi cost around £700 more so if the gap stays the same 10 years to recoup purely on RFL. A4 allroad (B9 Platform) Discussion - 2.0 TDI vs 3.0 TDI - Hi, Looking for opinions or experience with the different engine choices of the B9 Allroad. At least here in Norway there are 5 diesel options and 1 petrol alternative, but the most sold models are the 2.0 TDI 190 HP (4-cylinder) and 3.0 TDI 218 HP (V6). racingline golf 2.0 tsi is 20 mk7 gti, audi a3 8v, audi tt, octavia vrs and 2.0 tsi is20 t uning software & remap 2.0TSI EA888 GEN 3 IS20 - PERFORMANCE SOFTWARE OPTIONS Our OEM+ Performance Software is simply the most effective modification you can make to a modern turbocharged engine. Rencontre Du Troisieme Type Film Complet Francais. "Started From The Bottom" #1 FSI VS TDI I currently on a FSI & my Mate has a TDI I want a head to head list of things that make FSI better than the TDI or the other way round. I want to also know if mechanically if 1 engine is better for reliability then the other FSI vs TDI This is my list so far Can Everybody on Please add what you think is a benefit Too Each Engine. Benefits of FSI 1. More Rev’s 2. Less Engine Noise Benefits Of TDI 1. More MPG 2. More Torque At the end of all this talk I’ll Post the Winner of What Engine has Won!!!!! Last edited: Mar 16, 2010 #2 Benefits of FSI Benefits of TDI 1. More Economy 2. Cheaper to run 3. Superb when mapped Last edited: Mar 16, 2010 Goner Guest #3 The FSI non turbo can't be quicker than a TDI 140 surely? #4 Just checked parkers. FSI FAIL "Started From The Bottom" #5 Just checked parkers. FSI FAIL So it's not quicker then the TDI ? #6 Nope. If it was TFSI or - it would be alot closer contest. Goner Guest #7 I can't see the FSI being anywhere near as quick as a TDI 140, either from a standing start or it's 'in gear' acceleration. Map the TDI 140 and it will paste the FSI. The TFSI, well that's a different kettle of fish again.. With the correct tuning and driven right, this engine is a right tool. :icon_thumright: Goner Guest #9 One thing that does go in the FSI's favour is that there is no turbo to go wrong, the TDI turbo is an expensive unit to replace when (and i say when because it will) blow. I have just had to fork out £650 for a turbo repair and all the other bits and bats that go with it, i managed to do this on the cheap (if you can call it that) through a good friend of the family. The TDI doesn't have a cracking rep for having a bullet proof turbo shall we say, nearly every tuner i spoke to when enquiring about having my TDI mapped told me the turbo on the TDI is a weak point of the engine. :icon_thumright: #10 I see no reason what so ever for buying a FSI (or the actually). Its got to be either a or a in the A3. Or a V6 if you are feeling particularly evil :icon_thumright: "Started From The Bottom" #11 Quick Update.....It's still neck on neck... Benefits of FSI 1. More Rev’s 2. Less Engine Noise 3. No Turbo ...to go wrong..Less money to spend on when it goes wrong. Benefits Of TDI 1. More MPG 2. More Torque 3. Good to re-map #12 This thread is a bit pointless, like a top trumps only one deck is a loser everytime! The a part from being fairly quiet really has nothing else going for it, its slow, not that much more economical the way less economical then the and not even tuneable. #13 Mate of mine just picked the 20FSI over the TDI as generally they were much cheaper and miles tended to be lower on used cars. He doesnt do many miles and the single frame TDIs were out of his budget. He`s not interested in modding so the FSI limited tuning options didnt matter. So to some the FSI makes a lot of sense. Its not for everyone but personally I dont think all of the criticism the FSI gets is necessarily justified. My 2p Cheers Paul #14 I think they de-tune the FSI for the Cayman. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #15 I hate diesels. Not a fan. However I'd much much rather have a TDI over the FSI. The FSI is underpowered and a pretty rubbish choice for an A3. #16 I've got an FSI and would also say that it gets a bad press on here. When I bought mine I didn't even test drive the TDI, basically because I was thinking that diesels are slow and rubbish. Ok, I was wrong. But since owning my car I've driven a couple of similar aged TDI 140's and I just can't see how anyone who has driven both could possibily say that the TDI is so much better than an FSI. I think what makes the TDI "feel" quicker than the FSI is its low down torque, so you get an immediate shove in the back when you put your foot down (although it runs out pretty quickly), whereas the FSI gives a smoother delivery so doesn't feel as quick. But side by side there is nothing in it. On the flip side, the FSI is slightly quicker to 60 according to their stats, has a bit more bnp, but not enough to mean it really is quicker. If tuning is what is wanted then, yes, forget the FSI. But as standard and to be kept standard there is no noticeable difference in performance between the two, they just offer it in a different way. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #17 I've got an FSI and would also say that it gets a bad press on here. When I bought mine I didn't even test drive the TDI, basically because I was thinking that diesels are slow and rubbish. Ok, I was wrong. But since owning my car I've driven a couple of similar aged TDI 140's and I just can't see how anyone who has driven both could possibily say that the TDI is so much better than an FSI. I think what makes the TDI "feel" quicker than the FSI is its low down torque, so you get an immediate shove in the back when you put your foot down (although it runs out pretty quickly), whereas the FSI gives a smoother delivery so doesn't feel as quick. But side by side there is nothing in it. On the flip side, the FSI is slightly quicker to 60 according to their stats, has a bit more bnp, but not enough to mean it really is quicker. If tuning is what is wanted then, yes, forget the FSI. But as standard and to be kept standard there is no noticeable difference in performance between the two, they just offer it in a different way. The BHP figure is similar for both. But as the TDI has more torque, it does feel quicker. Who cares what it says on paper... #18 The BHP figure is similar for both. But as the TDI has more torque, it does feel quicker. Who cares what it says on paper... The fsi has about 10 bhp more. But you're right, what's on paper doesn't always transfer to the road. The tdi just feels quicker, that's what I said. But really it ain't. #19 I think they de-tune the FSI for the Cayman. And its cheap!! #20 Reasons for FSi over TDi dodgy early cylinder heads cracking turbos blowing at low mileage Dual mass flywheels failing at low mileage EGR valves failing at low mileage FSi easier to pick up with lower mileage Reasons for TDi over FSi More torque, especially if remapped Better fuel economy The FSi isnt THAT slow, is certainly not fast though - I think the 6 speed box makes it seem slower & tall gearing for better MPG doesn't help. Also, catch the turbo off boost..... In my mind if you want a faster car, go for the TDi, if you want a cheaper car to run in the long run - FSi, sure the mpg is better on the TDi but thats soon wiped out by having to replace a turbo or DMF. Most of the taxi drivers in my area have swapped back onto petrol engines for that reason. #21 The fsi has about 10 bhp more. But you're right, what's on paper doesn't always transfer to the road. The tdi just feels quicker, that's what I said. But really it ain't. If I had a PD140 to make it a bit fairer (the 170 I've got would destroy it even if it was still standard) I'd quite happily put it up against a to show its faster. I have no doubt what so ever that it would be. I dont condone racing though #22 If I had a PD140 to make it a bit fairer I'd quite happily put it up against a to show its faster. I have no doubt what so ever that it would be. You'd be wrong, and sad. Been there and done it, quite a few times, and it easily goes either way And as someone has stated, the second you're off boost and left only with DI; well............. What I notice when having a tear ups with PD140's is....... they jump off a bit quicker, but with each of their gear changes I reel them back in quite quickly. And the fact that they've had to change up to about 6th while I'm still in 2nd doesn't help them either! At low revs the FSI is pretty dire, but after getting used to how it drives its pretty easy to adjust your driving style to get the best out of the engine. Keeping revs high really makes a difference. The FSI has a noticeable increase in power somewhere around 3500 rpm and continues well throughout the rest of the range. But like I said, I'm by no means saying that the FSI is a "fast car", but all this talk of it being slow is unfair. And to speak highly of the TDI 140 against the FSI, in their standard forms, makes me think that those who do don't really have experience of driving both. #23 Its all about the tdi I never though that I would be a diesel head "Started From The Bottom" #24 You'd be wrong, and sad. Been there and done it, quite a few times, and it easily goes either way And as someone has stated, the second you're off boost and left only with DI; well............. What I notice when having a tear ups with PD140's is....... they jump off a bit quicker, but with each of their gear changes I reel them back in quite quickly. And the fact that they've had to change up to about 6th while I'm still in 2nd doesn't help them either! At low revs the FSI is pretty dire, but after getting used to how it drives its pretty easy to adjust your driving style to get the best out of the engine. Keeping revs high really makes a difference. The FSI has a noticeable increase in power somewhere around 3500 rpm and continues well throughout the rest of the range. But like I said, I'm by no means saying that the FSI is a "fast car", but all this talk of it being slow is unfair. And to speak highly of the TDI 140 against the FSI, in their standard forms, makes me think that those who do don't really have experience of driving both. Your Right Mate...I own A FSI. And in no way it's Slow...People drive my car and say it's pretty fast. I've also driven my friends TDI and I would stay in terms of speed and power it's on the same level. To put everything to rest I’m thinking of a race between my car and his car. I'll need to think of a suitable place to race & to film it. I'll post it on a YouTube when everything is done... #25 My PD 140 is an 08, so I wonder if I have turbo problems, hope they happen within the next year anyway, as the warranty runs out V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #26 Your Right Mate...I own A FSI. And in no way it's Slow...People drive my car and say it's pretty fast. That surprises me, my has an extra 100bhp over the FSI and I wouldn't describe that as fast! #27 That surprises me, my has an extra 100bhp over the FSI and I wouldn't describe that as fast! You'd better trade it in for a TDI 140 then. V6Pete Now running on Bentley's y'all #28 You'd better trade it in for a TDI 140 then. I'd rather buy a Kia Picanto. #29 I'd rather buy a Kia Picanto. I can see why..... #30 On the track, FSI but on the (real world) roads, TDI then? I'd rarely get the opportunity these days (commute traffic, generally) to take advantage of a petrol engine, so I now enjoy the lively torque of the TDI (CR). Flat6 Brilliant Black Black edition "Started From The Bottom" #33 Me too.... ..That's why my car revs up and down when ideal.. "Started From The Bottom" #34 FSI TDI T T I think I'm going to change my Engine to a T #35 FSI TDI T T I think I'm going to change my Engine to a T Judging by the reports from the TDI I'd take the figures with a handful of salt! "Started From The Bottom" #36 Judging by the reports from the TDI I'd take the figures with a handful of salt! I did'nt know they made a TDI lol "Started From The Bottom" #38 TDI WOW I would still go for the T thou.. Goner Guest #39 I had the TSI (Supercharged Turbo) in my GT Sport TSI 170.. cracking engine, people that slag it.. most of the time have no idea what they are talking about. :icon_thumright: "Started From The Bottom" #40 I had the TSI (Supercharged Turbo) in my GT Sport TSI 170.. cracking engine, people that slag it.. most of the time have no idea what they are talking about. :icon_thumright: Do you know if it Would be possible to change my FSI into a TSI ? Regardless, we recommend you to update your browser. Regulamin forum 1. Temat musi zaczynać się od [S1] lub [S2], a treść powinna być taka sama jak ta występująca w cenniku lub konfiguratorze, np. "[S2] Przygotowanie pod telefon GSM I" 2. Jeden wątek powinien dotyczyć jednej opcji wyposażenia dostępnej w cenniku lub konfiguratorze. ipwrslv Posty: 2 Rejestracja: 20 cze 2020, o 12:17 Samochód: Inny Silnik: Inny Trwałość TSI vs TDI Zapytalem w temacie o spalaniu ale pytanie szybko zgubilo sie w tlumie wiec moze warto osobny temat. A jak wyglada kwestia trwalosci aktualnych poprawionych i Czego sie spodziewac przy przebiegach 200tys km i wiecej? Rozwazam zakup nowego Superb Sportline na dluzszy czas, wiec moge spokojnie przebic 200tys km, wiadomo w dluzszym okresie czasu diesel sie bedzie bardziej oplacac, ale TSI jest wiecej i przy odrobinie szczescia mozna bedzie TSI kupic duzo taniej niz TDI, widzialem juz porownywalne wypisazniem auta z roznica w cenie 20tys zl. Ma ktos doświadczenie w eksploatacji i kosztach przy większych przebiegach? Odpuscmy temat "starszych TSI" pijacych olej razem z paliwem grimson Posty: 78 Rejestracja: 31 paź 2019, o 21:44 Samochód: Superb III 4x4 Facelift Silnik: (190KM) Re: Trwałość TSI vs TDI Post autor: grimson » 10 paź 2020, o 19:20 Obie jednostki zacne, dopracowane. Raczej nie mają słabych punktów. Spalanie przy ośce ze wskazaniem na benzynę, tak samo jak potencjalne zawirusowanie. maureliusz Posty: 1407 Rejestracja: 18 sty 2019, o 13:13 Samochód: Superb II 4x4 Silnik: (170KM) CFGB Aktualnie: 200KM / 398Nm Imię: Maro Lokalizacja: Myślenice / wioska obok Re: Trwałość TSI vs TDI Post autor: maureliusz » 11 paź 2020, o 09:39 Jak ma być nowe i sam będziesz dbał to wszystko 200kkm wytrzyma. Na współczesne auto żaden przebieg... zawsze możesz trafić na ten jeden na milion wadliwy;-) Ja mówimy o nowym TSI, nie żłopiącym olej... to nawet bym się nie zastanawiał! 1. Osiągi i dynamika 2. Ciepełko zimą szybko 3. Ekologia Cię nie dotknie... zapewne będą oboszczenia TDI na plus: 2. Lepsze do holowania przyczepy Ps. Ale tylko 4x4 Wysłane z mojego Redmi 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka Nie oglądaj się na innych. Rób swoje. Najlepiej jak potrafisz. Hi thereBoth the TDI and TSI Tiguans are very capable and desirable vehicles, so it's easy to understand why you can't decide between these two - especially because they cost roughly the the TSI's power advantage will be difficult to overlook, while the TDI will only really make sense if you plan on using the vehicle predominantly for long-distance trips. Around town, the difference in consumption may well be smaller than you'd imagine, with the diesel's efficiency advantage only becoming really notable on the open road. In the long term, neither of them has any clear-cut advantage in terms of maintenance costs, though servicing on the TSI will be less expensive once the service plan has expired. The TDI will likely need attention to its injectors at some point (after about 150 000 km), while the TSI won't have this issue. They both have turbochargers and all manner of emission-control equipment, though, which would likely require attention before you've hit the 200 000 km mark on either of them. In the end, it depends on the usage of the car: long distance driving will see the fuel efficiency of the TDI save you a pretty penny (which will then eventually go into servicing and maintenance), but the TSI will be nicer to use and a lot more refined day to day. And it's quite noticeably quicker as well... so that means that we'd probably recommend the TSI over the TDI for most this helps!The AskAutoTrader Team

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